Will the Cycle be Unbroken? The Fall of Civilizations Through Ignoring God

I’m not much on the Book of Revelations. No matter how much I listen to explanations, explications, read on it, it’s just messiness to me. I do believe prophecy, and wrote in 2009 about The Harbinger byJohnathan Cahn. Extremely detailed connection between what happened to ancient Israel when they fell to Babylon and what’s happened to the US (and by extension Western civilization) since 9/11. The connection to the fall to any civilization is directly connected to a nation turning its back on God.

My last post on New Years' Day bemoaned the terrible things that beset the year 2014. I don’t see things much improving in 2015, for reasons explained in that blog. Christmas for us Western Christians traditionally end Jan 6^th the Epiphany, so this is, I suppose, the last New Year thoughts.

I’m concerned we, as a nation, still think we can wallow in an oversexed world, reject the family, ridicule and reject and disrespect authority, have state funded abortion, reliance on excessive drugs and alcohol, and the abuse and abandonment of children. Lip service is given to support of the military, but cutting their budgets, sexualizing and feminizing the armed forces does not bode well for the protection of the US or Western civilization.

What comes around goes around; Babylon brought Jerusalem down and later Babylon fell. Scripture from Isaiah about Babylon’s downfall:

 “Come down, virgin daughter of Babylon, and sit in the dust.

    For your days of sitting on a throne have ended.

O daughter of Babylonia, never again will you be

    the lovely princess, tender and delicate.

 Take heavy millstones and grind flour.

    Remove your veil, and strip off your robe.

    Expose yourself to public view.

 You will be naked and burdened with shame.

    I will take vengeance against you without pity.”

 Our Redeemer, whose name is the Lord of Heaven’s Armies,

    is the Holy One of Israel.

 “O beautiful Babylon, sit now in darkness and silence.

    Never again will you be known as the queen of kingdoms.

 For I was angry with my chosen people

    and punished them by letting them fall into your hands.

But you, Babylon, showed them no mercy.

    You oppressed even the elderly.

 You said, ‘I will reign forever as queen of the world!’

    You did not reflect on your actions

    or think about their consequences.

 “Listen to this, you pleasure-loving kingdom,

    living at ease and feeling secure.

You say, ‘I am the only one, and there is no other.

    I will never be a widow or lose my children.’

 Well, both these things will come upon you in a moment:

    widowhood and the loss of your children.

Yes, these calamities will come upon you,

    despite all your witchcraft and magic.

 “You felt secure in your wickedness.

    ‘No one sees me,’ you said.

But your ‘wisdom’ and ‘knowledge’ have led you astray,

    and you said, ‘I am the only one, and there is no other.’

 So disaster will overtake you,

    and you won’t be able to charm it away.

Calamity will fall upon you,

    and you won’t be able to buy your way out.

A catastrophe will strike you suddenly,

    one for which you are not prepared.

 “Now use your magical charms!

    Use the spells you have worked at all these years!

Maybe they will do you some good.

    Maybe they can make someone afraid of you.

 All the advice you receive has made you tired.

    Where are all your astrologers,

those stargazers who make predictions each month?

    Let them stand up and save you from what the future holds.

 But they are like straw burning in a fire;

    they cannot save themselves from the flame.

You will get no help from them at all;

    their hearth is no place to sit for warmth.

 And all your friends,

    those with whom you’ve done business since childhood,

will go their own ways,

    turning a deaf ear to your cries. Isaiah 47:1-15

This is pretty much where we are now. History repeating itself, again. We know if we follow, listen to God, this cycle will be broken. Even something as simple as obeying the Ten Commandments, even if we threw out the first one about God to appease atheists and secularists, and just didn’t do stuff like murder, steal, covet other peoples stuff and relationships would be a vast improvement.

Thinking back on the 20^th century, and the horribleness of it; genocide many times over, WWI, WWII, intentional mass starvation, the Holocaust, Hitler, Mao murdering millions, Stalin and Lenin murdering millions, gulags and the rest of it. Abortion has killed millions of babies. I read one analysis that estimated the Black population of the US would be about 30%, not the about 13% it is now, if they had not aborted so many of their children. Yet the very attitudes that brought us all that horror continue into the 21^st Century, and at the beginning of 2015 I see no rethinking to restart working with God, with natural law, with love, to turn all that horribleness back.

I don’t see any indication that church attendance will increase, that people will fall on their knees and acknowledge God, or repent. This is where Revelations, talking about Babylon as a symbol now, since it has fallen, describes us:

After all this I saw another angel come down from heaven with great authority, and the earth grew bright with his splendor. He gave a mighty shout:

“Babylon is fallen—that great city is fallen!

    She has become a home for demons.

She is a hideout for every foul spirit,

    a hideout for every foul vulture

    and every foul and dreadful animal.

 For all the nations have fallen

    because of the wine of her passionate immorality.

The kings of the world

    have committed adultery with her.

Because of her desires for extravagant luxury,

    the merchants of the world have grown rich.”

 Then I heard another voice calling from heaven,

“Come away from her, my people.

    Do not take part in her sins,

    or you will be punished with her.

 For her sins are piled as high as heaven,

    and God remembers her evil deeds.

 Do to her as she has done to others.

    Double her penalty for all her evil deeds.

She brewed a cup of terror for others,

    so brew twice as much for her.

Yet we as a nation, as a civilization, embrace this as a home for demons, rather than God’s direction, rules, and discipline. How can it be that Satan and the destruction he promises and brings be embraced? Over and over, civilizations throughout history. The Church, Christians and Jews, must stand up to this. Many in the Church are ignorant of their own Faith, and have been successfully secularized. The Church, the Body of Christ is so so weakened.

All we can do is pray and educate in a way that doesn’t alienate more, and bring them back to the Church, and don’t let Satan or the State dictate to us how we should accept all this repetition of hatred and destruction. I’m terrified the 21^st Century will be a continuation of the 20^th. I think more in our daily lives and in Churches, we need to speak in a way about Repentance that doesn’t turn them off. The Enemy has even made the idea of Repentance something to be mocked. We need to pray for a miracle.  

FDR & Obama- Two Views on War

FDR on War: "The facts of yesterday and today speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation. As commander in chief of the Army and Navy, I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense. But always will our whole nation remember the character of the onslaught against us.

No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe that I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost, but will make it very certain that this form of treachery shall never again endanger us.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory, and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces, with the unbounding determination of our people, we will gain the inevitable triumph — so help us God."


Obama on War: As President, I refuse to set goals that go beyond our responsibility, our means, or our interests. And I must weigh all of the challenges that our nation faces. I don't have the luxury of committing to just one. Indeed, I'm mindful of the words of President Eisenhower, who -- in discussing our national security -- said, "Each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs."

Over the past several years, we have lost that balance. We've failed to appreciate the connection between our national security and our economy. In the wake of an economic crisis, too many of our neighbors and friends are out of work and struggle to pay the bills. Too many Americans are worried about the future facing our children. Meanwhile, competition within the global economy has grown more fierce. So we can't simply afford to ignore the price of these wars.

All told, by the time I took office the cost of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan approached a trillion dollars. Going forward, I am committed to addressing these costs openly and honestly. Our new approach in Afghanistan is likely to cost us roughly $30 billion for the military this year, and I'll work closely with Congress to address these costs as we work to bring down our deficit."

The first had the attitude that the US should kill bad guys and destroy their stuff until they were all dead and all their stuff was destroyed or they surrender completely. The second is not setting goals to win against the bad guys and make them submit, he's worried about economic considerations that won't mean a damn thing under Sharia law and the destruction of Western Civilization. I personally know people that actually want Western Civilization to fail, capitalism to fail, and democracy to fail.
One that I see that wants these things, but don't know, is the President of the United States; and that scares the hell out of me.

Suicide of the West? by Thomas Sowell

An incredibly wise, insightful piece. The meaning of releasing the Lockerbie terrorist. Adam Smith: "Mercy to the guilty is cruelty to the innocent." Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn: "The timid civilized world has found nothing with which to oppose the onslaught of a sudden revival of barefaced barbarity, other than concessions and smiles." Western civilization is appeasing the march of Islam, and if it continues, then we'll have Sharia, not constitutional democracies. Article here.